Found a window in the weather and went for it at 11 am just got back 3pm stopped once for fuel didnt get wet did 140 mile round trip and am now in pain ok up until about 2 hours then after that got more and more uncomfortable si guess i need to take more breaks or add a tenere to the garage (just off to convince the wife its for health reasons)

It was more my back neck and shoulders i figured its there is not enough distance from seat to footboards so my spine takes most of the weight felt better when sitting on the butt rest but then too much stretch to the bars (so an arm extention or leg reduction op is the answer )wouldnt want to do anything to drastic lol....
I used to have a kawasaki klr when i got uncomfortable i just stood up for while(dont like stopping too much once im going im going if you know what i mean) :m/c:

p.s I do like the africa twin but if i had the money a ktm 990 adventurer would be next to the wing

I dont think its where i sit I think its the fact that my knees are too high ive tried removing the butt rest but i sit on the hard bits so again uncomfortable maybe a sheep skin and backrest may solve the problem

I think i need to work on the seat guess im just cheap lol i will look into air and sheep combi

thanks for the tips guys

I'm 6'2". I removed the butt rest and like the extra room. I also have a sheepskin to cover the plastic parts and protect from summer butt rash on those 90 degree day long rides.

2 or 3 days a week I travel a total of 180 miles with a couple of stops in between. After about 45-50 minutes my back begins to hurt as well. The pain is usually located right beneath my left shoulder blade. It seems no matter how I shift my position the stress is still there. So I end up sitting straight up at attention for a while with legs under me, then slouching easy-rider style with legs forward for awhile. I also switch foot position often, one foot forward and one back. Seems nothing relieves the strain on that part of my back.

I do not notice the pain when I ride my harley which has a lower seat, mini ape handlebars, and forward foot controls. My lower back is more supported since it is a deep bucket seat and my arms are held at a higher level due to the mini apes.

Now that I am sitting here analyzing it, the Swing seat seems higher in relation to my handlebars compared to the Harley. Also, I think my feet are positioned more forward on the Harley, moving my body closer to the handlebars so I can sit more upright. Maybe I am stooped over more just below my shoulders on the Swing in an effort to reach the handle bars with my butt being shifted back farther on the seat.

Anyway, all I know is I still prefer to ride the Swing on those long trips. It just seems so effortless to ride and tires me much less. Plus it is a heck of a lot cheaper to feed and maintain.

I have exactly the same pain in my shoulder even when driving cars or trains for long distances ,I saw a chiropractitioner(I think thats the spelling) and he beat the s**t out of me which made it better for about a year.... I also move around alot for my leg pains(I am not falling apart honest)too many bike crashes and soccer games...........Just remembered have a self inflating camping pillow could this be a cheapskate airhawk?(I will keep you posted)

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